Upgrading Rca Cables On A Turntable Worth The Money?

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I recently purchased (online, as there is no store near me) a pair of Audioquest Big Sur's equally a cable upgrade to supersede a standard pair of rca's that go between my phono amp and headphone amp.
Firstly, my organisation is, Turntable: Projection "the classic" with a 2m bronze (connected to phono amp by Pro Ject connect it eastward phono cable)
Phono amp: Technics SU V5 (intergrated)
Headphone amp: Woo Wa two
Headphones Sennheiser Hard disk 700s
So the cablevision is between the SU V5 and the Wa2, and I have the old rcas plugged in to one input and the Audioquests into another, and then I can A/B on the fly, and things are confusing.....
It seems to virtually vary on a runway by track basis, the Audioquests volition be what I want, bigger soundstage, improve separation, better fine detail etc...., just and so on the adjacent song, they will sound rolled off on both frequency extremes, apartment and lifeless in the middle and congested. I don't empathise how they can audio sometimes better and sometimes worse than a stock rca cable.
I have tried placing them at a different spot in the chain, switching the ends around, letting them "fire in" if that is fifty-fifty a thing with cables, basically anything I tin to justify spending the money on them (facepalm) withal since it seems to be more oftentimes than non I don't like the sound, I'm asking to run into if it is a mismatch in something. I have information technology set up the way which sounds all-time, directional arrows pointing from phono to headphone amp, and still it sounds worse then the stock cables more than half the time.
I know very piffling about the numbers side of electronics and electricity etc.... then please explain it equally if I have no idea, because I don't. I'm just wondering if an upgraded phono stage (planned anyhow) or another cablevision is needed instead.

Cheers for the assistance.
How do you like the connect it e phono cable?
Better recordings will sound improve on a more transparent system. Increased transparency will besides lay bare a poor recording. The stock cables were imparting a coloration on everything, making the tunes all sounding similar. Welcome to a taste of the high terminate.
Honestly I don't really know, seems... ok? Only it came with the table and I've just always had information technology there, so without switching information technology out for a unlike cable I can't really compare sorry. Is well made and comes with a ground, it tin exist takes autonomously to give two seperate unattached cables and the ground as well, so that is all well and good.
Cable aside you might desire to consider a new phono stage. The Technics on top of needing re-capping for fresh functioning is still likely to have a phono stage that could be surpassed by spending something in the range of $200-400.
When you say adjacent song is it the same song in the aforementioned anthology or you are talking another album? It should not change so much from song to song in the aforementioned anthology unless is a compilation from different artists or times. May be you lot didn't get the right cables for yous, there is a lot of hype with brands, yous need to keep trying but you tin can get good unbranded cables too.
At commencement I figured that is what information technology was, simply after listening to louder and quieter pressings, amend and worse pressings etc.... information technology was all the same all over the place. With better pressings it wasn't making them audio better than the stock cables, and in some cases it was worse.
The but way I can describe the Audioquests when they are bad is "choked" which is why I idea maybe they might but non exist the right match.
Many times I have gone down the rabbit hole a flake I have initially idea things to be lacking something (usually bass) merely accept grown to realise that, similar what you said, information technology's just more transparent, but given my lack of knowledge on electronics, I was wondering if there would be a improve cable or way to bring more than loftier and lows back that seem to vanish from them at times.
Thanks for the reply, the side by side vocal mean the next one on the aforementioned album. I find that on older recording that are more "mid frequency" based, the Audioquests are ok, but on recording from the 80s with lots of loftier frequencies or modern ones with lots of lows, the Audioquests suffer.
I was wondering where the technics lay on the quality spectrum too, so thank you for clearing that up a bit. Tax return time presently, so a new phono stage isn't long off.
I build my own loftier quality cables with high quality parts - very reasonably priced - and quite enjoyable. My betoken is - the cables shouldn't be the affair to chase in affecting your sound.
Exactly which outputs of the Technics SU-V5 are connected to exactly which inputs of the Woo WA ii?
Considering based upon your experience, I would start to explore swapping the cables between their existing places or try using different inputs on your headphone amp. And would also entertain the possibility of something faulty on one of your SU-V5 output circuits.
I know, the are low on my priority list, I only figured that before I exercise any more upgrades on better phono stages and cartridges, I should go a cable that will Not take equally much away from those upgrades.
I had this thought every bit well and started swapping the cables around and irresolute ends etc.... but there was no way which seemed "right". The fashion I have it prepare now is what it was at offset and it is with the cables going from the output of the SU V5 (tape rec out 1) into input 1 of the Wa2. The stock cables are going out of tape rec out 2, into input 2 of the Wa 2. Don't know how much it matters that they are "tape outs", simply at that place are no other outputs I tin utilise for it, and both sets of rca cables are were switched and compared from both outs, and the stock cable withal seems better in terms of frequency response.
More expensive cables are non ever better. Equally an example: I compared a $2200 pair of interconnects to the ones I even so utilize ($125), and asked iv people to listen with me (one at a time). One was my wife; two were friends who are music or audio professionals; the fourth was a friend with a great system, Spectral electronics and a pair of Avalon Isis.
Each i of united states of america preferred the cheaper interconnects.

If y'all desire something better than what comes in the box, I'd recommend cables from Blue Jeans Cablevision or cables made up for y'all past a reputable pro-audio shop from Mogami, Belden, or Canare cable. Your ears may find such cables less colored than the boutique brands.
I'd concur with that. I've looked at the schematic, and information technology has two JFETs (probably 2SK170) equally a diff amp, and a Technics custom dual op amp - half used for each channel - feeding the RIAA network back to the JFETs. I haven't checked the accuracy of the RIAA. The SU-V5 dates dorsum to 1981 (so well-nigh xl years ago), and technology and understanding has progressed just a piddling bit since so.
Nowadays you lot'd (ie I'd) probably use a current generation ultra low racket op-amp as a flat gain stage (such as an AD797), passive RIAA (there will be opinions here about that) and then a flat op-amp gain stage, plus a unity proceeds buffer after the passive RIAA. And a decent ability supply.
Thank you for the answer, I'm definitely needing to upgrade it before long, I never knew what to remember of it in comparison to other amps, as it's and then hard to find reviews and such on it, and I have nothing to compare it to.
Thanks for the suggestion on the other cablevision brands, will take to check some of them out.
Many years ago the shop I was working in had a musical evening run by the manufacturer of well known cables, who had a range from budget to serious money. Over the grade of the evening, I recollect it is truthful to say that at that place was admittedly no concensus of opinion any!
But because something is several times more expensive, doesn't mean that it is automatically going to exist an upgrade. For the cost of some of the cables y'all could have upgraded the electronics and anybody would have heard an comeback on every piece of music. That is my thought of an upgrade.
Belden 8402 stuff is crazy skillful
welcome to the cable merry-go-round. salve your receipts and boxes, give 'em a couple, three weeks. put the one-time cablevision dorsum in. if you lot don't want to immediately want to put the new cable dorsum in, send them back. repeat as necessary. unfortunately cables do demand some suspension in time merely my rule of pollex is that if they audio worse, send them back.
often y'all will hears some things alter for the amend and some things sounding worse- e.chiliad. more clarity but an edgy top end, more than bass merely more congestion, etc.
i have not had much success with lower priced value cables either- tried them all but the best of the bunch were fabricated by JL Sound and Fine art "Popular" with Mogami wire.
the ones currently in my organization include nordost imperial flare, nordost blue heaven, audience ohno. ones i have eliminated include a few models of audioquest, cardas, chord, belden, grover, KAB, kimber and wireworld.
By plugging in a different gear up of RCA's the likely outcome is that at that place will be a discernable change. Could be for the better, could be for the worse.
More expensive cable doesn't ever align with "better". I'd send em back for sure, Life's likewise brusk and in that location are many others to choose from.
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One of the reasons could be that the capacitance difference between those 2 cables is rather big. Endeavor to get to know the capacitance value of your audioquest cable beginning!
Did you burn them in? Cables demand playing time before sounding optimal.
AudioQuest cables are not bidirectional. Brand certain they're continued the right manner. There are arrows for out and in on the connectors. Also they need to break in for a fleck.
Afterward decades of cable merry become rounds I got Blujean cables to encounter if my ears were messing with me. Put their best interconnect between my Esoteric and Vincent moded intergraded amp and liked the audio so much I went the whole route with the rest of my arrangement.
Later on near two years decided to put my Audioquest Columbia back between the components and the Audioquest as for at present are staying. I cant evidence annihilation only boutique cables seem to colour the sound like my 12ax7 tube changes and that is why I experience expensive cables will always be around. Or I could be incorrect, take care,John M.
AQ is better or only different than Blue Jeans?